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This podcast captures the history of Pararescuemen (PJ) and Combat Rescue Officers (CRO). "That Others May Live" is the motto PJs and CROs live by, but we are also known for our obsession with late nights, small wooden idols and tattoos on our rear-ends. Join us for stories of new and old. The podcast highlights the dedication and "madness" required for the demanding PJ lifestyle, often highlighting stories of bravery, specialized training, and camaraderie.
The Madcat Podcast is an audio .mp4 and video .mp3 series dedicated to capturing and preserving the history of Air Force Pararescuemen (PJs) and Combat Rescue Officers (CROs). It features long-form interviews with legendary figures and modern operators within the elite rescue community, sharing firsthand accounts of missions, training, and the culture of those who live by the motto "That Others May Live".
The Madcat Podcast is an audio .mp3 and video .mp4 series dedicated to documenting and preserving the history and stories of United States Air Force Pararescuemen (PJs) and Combat Rescue Officers (CROs). It features long-form interviews with legendary figures, veterans, and active-duty operators, within the elite rescue community. These brave men share firsthand accounts of missions, training, ranging from Vietnam to the War on Terrorism and civil SAR for America's citizens. The podcast serves as a living archive for the community. It ensures the "tip of the spear" contributions of PJs are never forgotten.
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Intro to Madcat podcasts from the
creators who conceptualized and are completing modern oral histories for
Pararescue.
They are Nick Adagio (CRO) and Andrew Lucero (PJ)
Click Blue Hyperlink for 1min:53sec .mp3 Introduction
Whether you are a current or aspiring Pararescueman, a veteran, or just someone who is interested in learning about the heroic actions and sacrifices of these men, then you have come to the right place. And if you have any recommendations for other PJs to interview, please reach out to us at madcat.pod@gmail.com
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| Madcat Short 2026 38min |
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We host Colón-López, a man of profound experience and wisdom, shares his journey and lessons learned from a distinguished career. From his early days to his pivotal role as a Senior Enlisted Advisor, CZ offers invaluable insights into leadership, resilience, and the importance of mentorship. | |
| #32 30Mar26 1hr:03min |
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Episode 32 of the Madcat Podcast is with Al Stanek. He is a legend of the PJ community! He survived a shoot-down, saved his pilots from a burning wreck, and spent a night in the dirt fighting off enemy forces to protect the wounded. He’s a Silver Star recipient and a PJ's PJ. Join us for an incredible conversation. |
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Episode 31 of the Madcat Podcast is with Mike Fish. He served as a PJ at the 41st ARRS at Hamilton AFB, California, 38th ARRS at Tuy Hoa AB and the 71st ARRS at Elmendorf AFB, Alaska. He shares his story of earning the Air Force Cross and all of the jump missions he managed to get on! He remains a titan of the PJ community, this was an awesome interview for us to do in person. |
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| #30 3Nov25 2hr:24min |
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Episode 30 of the Madcat Podcast is with John Nusbaum. He joined the Air Force in 1965 and earned his beret in PJ class 65-5. After being stationed in Spain, he volunteered for a tour in Southeast Asia. We delve into the missions John conducted in Da Nang, most notably when John earned a Silver Star during an extremely hazardous extraction of a Special Forces team. Click to View Video |
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| #29 13Oct25 1hr |
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Episode 29 of the Madcat Podcast is with Chuck McGrath. Chuck is the recipient of the Air Force Cross, a Silver Star and two Distinguished Flying Crosses. Chuck is a true embodiment of the motto "That Others May Live." |
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| #28 8Aug25 1hr:13min |
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Episode 28 of the Madcat Podcast is with Jessica Lynch. Jessica is a former POW from the Iraq War, for an honest and unfiltered conversation. Hosted by PJ Benji Brudnicki, they discuss her life in the Army prior to deploying, her captivity, and her ongoing journey with mental health and healing. Benji was the PJ on Jessica's rescue team. |
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| #27 7Jul25 2hr:06min |
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Episode 27 of the Madcat Podcast is with Dennis McKiver. Dennis joins us to talk about his career. Dennis goes into detail about the missions he was a part of in Southeast Asia and the 3 jump missions he got in a row! Click to View Video |
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| #26 9Jun25 1hr:25min |
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Episode 26 of the Madcat Podcast is with Jim Shorten. From Navy deckhand to MACV-SOG recon leader to Air Force Pararescueman, Jim ‘Wild Carrot’ Shorten lived a life most only read about. He went deep behind enemy lines, then spent decades trying to bring the fallen home. This is his story. Click to View Video |
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| #25 28Apr25 1hr:28min |
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Episode 25 of the Madcat Podcast is with Al Richmond. Chief Al Richmond was the first PJ Chief of the 129 RQS. Chief joined the Marine Corps in 1954, 3 years later after the Marines wouldn't let him jump he joined the Army. Finally, that he joined the Air Force as a Pararescueman. He was a Reservist and Guardsman at the 301 RQS, 302 RQS and 129 RQS. He retired in 1981 after a legendary career. Click to View Video |
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| #24 30Dec24 1hr:03min |
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Episode 24 of the Madcat Podcast is with Robert “Willi” Williamson. Chief Williamson served from 1966-2000. Was a major player in the implementation of square parachutes and rescue jumpmaster TTPs. He has some incredible missions and hilarious Charlie stories. Hope you guys enjoy. Click to View Video |
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| #23 29Oct24 1hr:58min |
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Episode 23 of the Madcat Podcast is with Cliff Caffall. Cliff served in Guam and Southeast Asia before becoming a civilian contractor and TACP. He shares his exciting stories of jumping into typhoons and submarines in the Pacific, along with his memorable missions from 13 months deployed during the Vietnam War. Click to View Video |
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| #22 7Oct24 1hr:04min |
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Episode 22 of the Madcat Podcast is with Skip Kula. Another Alaska legend, we sit with Retired Chief Skip Kula to hear about his 30+ years as a PJ. From summiting Denali to parachuting through blizzards, Skip shares some amazing stories and hard-earned lessons. Click to View Video |
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| #21 23Sep24 1hr:41min |
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Episode 21 of the Madcat Podcast is with Garth Lenz. Garth Lenz is the former Chief of the 210th and is the current historian up in Alaska. His career is full of amazing stories. Click to View Video |
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| #20 15May24 1hr:03min |
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Episode 20 of the Madcat Podcast is with Mike McManus. Chief Mike McManus relives his historic 34 year career in Pararescue among his many assignments to include Japan, New York and Alaska. Chief McManus was a part of 7 jump missions while stationed in Japan, he was instrumental in standing up Pararescue's Military Freefall program, and he influenced many future Chief's careers with his mentorship. Joining Mike on this episode was his wife Deb, Jack Brehm, Pat Malone, and Karl Grugal. |
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| #19 29Apr24 1hr:12min |
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Episode 19 of the Madcat Podcast is with Christopher Tellsworth. Join us in our mentorship series as we sit down with Retired Chief Tellsworth to explore his most memorable missions, including his experience with the Jessica Lynch rescue operation, and crucial lessons learned throughout his Pararescue career. We dive into the key characteristics of effective leadership and he shares the necessary traits of a strong team. Click to View Video |
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| #18 25Mar24 32min |
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Episode 18 of the Madcat Podcast is with Jose Cabrera. Col Jose Cabrera is the Commander of the 563rd Rescue Group. His journey in the Air Force started prior to 9/11, after being tasked to help support personnel working at Ground Zero in New York he found a deep appreciation for first responders. 24 years later he is one of the highest ranking CROs in our community. Click to View Video |
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| #17 14Mar24 1hr:22min |
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Episode 17 of the Madcat Podcast is with Tony Negron. In this episode, we dive into the wealth of experience Tony Negron brings from his 26 years in the USAF, including a decade each in AFSOC and ACC, and notable combat tours. Tony shares critical lessons from the field, tips to crush the 24th STS selection, and strategies for a smooth military to civilian transition. He also opens up about the highs and lows of starting his own business after service. With Tony's guidance, rooted in extensive operational and entrepreneurial experience, this talk is a must-listen for those looking to navigate their future paths with confidence. Click to View Video |
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| #16 25Feb24 40min |
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Episode 16 of the Madcat Podcast is with Ramón "CZ" Colón-López. In the inaugural episode of our Mentorship Series, we are honored to host retired SEAC Ramón "CZ" Colón-López. Colón-López, a man of profound experience and wisdom, shares his journey and lessons learned from a distinguished career. From his early days to his pivotal role as a Senior Enlisted Advisor, CZ offers invaluable insights into leadership, resilience, and the importance of mentorship. Click to View Video |
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| #15 12Feb24 28min |
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Episode 15 of the Madcat Podcast is with Dave Milsten. We're got retired Chief Dave Milsten back on the podcast to share his incredible jump mission. The man has no fear! Click to View Video |
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| #15 23Jan24 24min |
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Episode 15 of the Madcat Podcast is with Tommy Miles. At the PJ Reunion, we had the honor of sitting down with 86-year-old Tommy Miles, a man of unparalleled resilience and determination. Tommy's survival story from a 200-foot helicopter fall, resulting in almost every bone in his body broken, is just the beginning. His journey through recovery and fight to achieve Pararescue status has rightfully earned him the reputation as one of the toughest men in the career field. Click to View Video |
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| #14 23Dec23 1hr:02min |
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Episode 14 of the Madcat Podcast is with Ed DeShae. Ed De Shae came into the Air Force in 1965 and broke barriers by becoming the first black Pararescueman. Ed describes the adversity he faced throughout his Air Force career and also recounts his most memorable mission which led to him being awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross. Ed went on to a successful career in the performing arts with the aspiration of helping others. Click to View Video |
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| #12 6Nov23 1hr:19min |
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Episode 12 of the Madcat Podcast is with John Tobey. Chief John Tobey represented the Air Force from 1963 to 1989. Four years after enlisting, Chief Tobey earned a Silver Star on his way to achieving two Distinguished Flying Crosses and three Airmen's Medals in Vietnam, Korea, and Alaska. Chief Tobey is well regarded as one of the best advocates for the Pararescue community. Among other things, his leadership allowed for expansion of the pipeline into what we know and love today and the OL-J / Indoctrination Course remaining high attrition rate programs. Click to View Video |
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| #11 23Oct23 1hr:03min |
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Episode 11 of the Madcat Podcast is with Robert LaPointe. With a commendable 26 years of service that began in 1969, Bob LaPointe undertook 8 remote tours in Korea and served two tours in Vietnam. Beyond the battlefield, he was stationed in the Alaska and was the first PJ lead an all PJ team to summit Mount McKinley. But Bob's legacy doesn't end there. He was the PJ Historian and has written two books: 'All for One, The Rescue of Boxer 22' and 'PJ's in Vietnam.' We delve deep into his experiences, stories, and hope for his return as the much-respected PJ Historian. Click to View Video |
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| #10 12Oct23 42min |
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Episode 10 of the Madcat Podcast is with Ken Fournier. In this episode of the Madcat Podcast, we sit down with Ken Fournier, a 14-year Pararescueman whose remarkable journey led him from high-stakes GRS missions to a career as a Hollywood stuntman. Ken shares memorable missions from his time as a PJ and his experience as an Eco-Challenge competitor. Join us for an inspiring look at Ken's extraordinary journey. Click to View Video |
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| #9 25Sep23 1hr:24min |
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Episode 9 of the Madcat Podcast is with Leif Arvidson. Leif Arvidson, a former Pararescueman, served his country from 1967 to 1993. In this episode, Arvidson recounts his experience that led to his Silver Star award during his first tour in Vietnam. Beyond the battlefield, Lief shares his contributions to the Pararescue community, including his role in establishing the Special Tactics Squadrons (STS) and the Paramedic Certification for PJs. Enjoy! |
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| #8 4Sep23 25min |
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Episode 8 of the Madcat Podcast is with Steve West. Vice President of the PJ Association Steve West joins us to talk through this week's events for the Rodeo and Reunion! We are humbled to have the support of the Association to document the stories of our community. Click to View Video |
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| #7 21Aug23 1hr:12min |
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Episode 7 of the Madcat Podcast is with Ri Prado. In this episode, we have the privilege of sitting down with Ric Prado, a former PJ and CIA agent. An accomplished New York Times bestselling author, his book "Black Ops: The Life of a CIA Shadow Warrior" has sold over 75,000 units. With appearances in over 120 interviews, including FOX News, Ric's stories have captivated audiences. Today, we're honored to offer Ric the chance to provide mentorship for those interested in a life of adventure and meaning. Click to View Video |
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| #6 7Aug23 1hr:33min |
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Episode 6 of the Madcat Podcast is with Paul Miller. Paul Miller, a career Pararescueman who left a significant impact on the community. From his time as an operator to his role at the Pentagon during the 9/11 attack, Paul shares gripping firsthand accounts. He played a major role in establishing the CRO career field and securing the Medal of Honor upgrade for William H. Pitsenbarger. Today, Paul serves as the director of the nonprofit "That Others May Rise," supporting those in need. Click to View Video |
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| #5 24Jul23 51min |
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Episode 5 of the Madcat Podcast is Ish Antonio (part 2). Part 2 of an awesome episode with Ish Antonio! We really enjoyed this half of the conversation as Ish shed light on a high profile civilian rescue, his journey as he exited the Air Force and ultimately how he is still deeply invested in the tactics and equipment of Pararescue today. Click to View Video |
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| #4 20Jul23 50min |
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Episode 4 of the Madcat Podcast is with Ish Antonio (part 1). Ish Antonio spent 20 years as a PJ in the UK, Alaska, North Carolina, and Albuquerque. After his decorated career in Active Duty, Ish still continues to lead in the world of technical rescue and innovation. It was a pleasure to hear his story and positive outlook on life, hope you all enjoy it as much as we did. Click to View Video |
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| #3 26Jun23 1hr:11min |
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Episode 3 of the Madcat Podcast is with Bill Sine. Bill Sine joins us to talk about his 28 year career as a PJ and his time as an instructor! Check out his books; "Guardian Angel" and "Tricklock: Operation Powerful Vendetta." Click to View Video |
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| #2 12Jun23 1hr:16min |
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Episode 2 of the Madcat Podcast is with Neil Arthur Black. A POW for 7 and a half years, Neil joined us to talk about his path to the Air Force, being a PJ in Guam and California, his time at the Hanoi Hilton, being repatriated and less than a year later becoming a pilot. It was an honor to talk to one of the legends of Pararescue! Click to View Video |
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| #1 28May23 54min |
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Episode 1 of the Madcat Podcast is with Dave Milsten. Chief Dave Milsten started his journey as a PJ during the Vietnam War and rose the ranks to become Chief of Pararescue, ARRS. Chief gave us great stories about his life, his missions with William Pitsenbarger and some shenanigans with Charlie the PJ. Click to View Video |
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